Dead from "Natural causes"!!

Archbishop Josef Wesolowski leads a Mass in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic, in 2013  Photo: AP

Wesolowski, who was due to stand trial on charges of paying boys to perform sexual acts, downloading and buying paedophile material, and offending Christian morality, appeared to have died of natural causes, the Vatican said in a statement.

"In the early hours of this morning S.E. Mons. Jozef Wesołowski, a papal nuncio, was found deceased in his Vatican residence," the Vatican said.

The statement suggested his death was a result of natural causes. "Vatican authorities intervened immediately for first verifications, which indicate his death was due to natural causes."

Well well well!  theres a surprise!

You could almost write the bloody script!

How "natural " was this very timely demise?!! It certainly wouldn't be the first that has been dubious!

But then what the hell DOES  this  church know about "natural"?

They have the sickly audacity to refer to gay marriage as "not natural" and yet they seem to think that enforced celibacy is "natural"??

They say that constantly giving birth to endless children in poverty is "natural" 

They would have us  believe that eating the body and blood of a crucified man is "natural" 

They like to tell us how to "naturally" use our bodies, our minds and even our money!

They congratulate themselves (naturally!)  for eventually (just this year!) recognising child abuse as a crime?

They still, however,  believe it is ok to brain wash and terrify children form birth -How  bloody "natural" is that!

How "natural" is it to tell children that their only purpose in this life  is to serve god and wait for   their reward in the "next life" To keep them terrified of exclusion and hell fire and damnation? 

How "natural" to abuse their innocent bodies and assassinate their spirit?

How "natural" were the suicides  of all of those people abused in their childhood by pedophiles like this man and the subsequent degradation of being dismissed or even called liars  by this dreadful organisation.

How "natural" is it to have our lives destroyed by them?

How "natural" to have sustained brain damage and have a shortened life span because of them?

How "natural" is it to receive this life sentence for no other reason than being vulnerable, in the wrong place at the wrong time and easy prey for these creeps.

With what this church knows about "natural" I think someone should have insisted that this Post Mortem was carried out by a SECULAR independent body just to see exactly how bloody natural it was! 

Because with their track record, most of us (quite naturally) don't believe a word they say!

Dear Steven Fry

Dear Steven Fry,

You are a very much loved “National Treasure” (don’t you just hate that phrase!!)

But in your case it is true, you are respected and admired by thousands, including me, In fact I  have a great fondness for you, love your wit and humour , read your books, and support most of your views and thoughts.

I know that thousands of people listen to your opinions and in that way you have a great deal of influence. I am also pleased that you are a fellow Humanist and embrace that movement.

So I am saddened to hear from many of my very angry fellow Australian Survivors of catholic clergy abuse , that you went on Australian Television this week  and said you thought that francis was a “ good pope” !(an oxymoron if ever I heard one!) ????

 Surely this cannot be true? Hopefully this is yet another case of misquotation? Perhaps taken very much “out of context”? Maybe even “Chinese whispers”?

Surely you couldn’t possibly have fallen for the francis PR roadshow? 

I know you are not a gullible man, and I know too you are honourable, so this can’t be right?

I cannot either believe you prescribe to the “Two blokes in the pub” way of forming opinions? 

Do you not know what this man has been, and continues to be responsible for? I am sure you can’t otherwise you would not have made such a faux pas. It just is not like you!

My fellow survivors have asked me to point out these facts to you, and they begged me to try and get their thoughts to you personally which I will also do.

These are some of the things they want to tell you, I could add many  more too! francis has MUCH to answer for - right back to Argentina!

 One Survivor, a good friend of mine said this

 “Fry has got to know Francis is the worst pope, he hides this evil under a caring facade. If anything I'd rather the others such as Benedict, as he just can't help to show his evil. PLUS, Francis has protected Pell in the Vatican.”

http://www.ntnews.com.au/news/national/pope-francis-has-not-shown-leadership/story-fnjbnvyj-1227496721601

http://www.smh.com.au/national/vatican-rebuffs-justice-peter-mcclellan-on-sex-abuse-files-20140705-3bf51.html

Monday August 24, 2015  Media Statement by Nicky Davis, Leader, SNAP Australia (Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests)  Damning evidence of church/police corruption, and popes, including Francis, neglecting duty of care Evidence today at the Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse from retired Bishop Geoffrey Robinson delivered admissions of high level Catholic Church collusion with a former NSW police commissioner, which resulted in priests being above the law; and callous neglect of child safety by senior Vatican officials, including all recent popes. Survivors are stunned that any Bishop, even a terminally ill one, would reveal some of the truth that most church officials work so hard to conceal, but not really surprised by the contents of those revelations. Among Bishops Robinson’s revelations are: A church enforcer colluding with the police commissioner on the orders of the cardinal to obstruct and undermine our laws and ensure priests corruptly escape being held accountable for their crimes. A series of popes up to the present day unable or unwilling to protect children and more concerned with enforcing their religious rites than preventing a lifetime of suffering or even suicide death being imposed on millions of innocents around the world. Australian church officials whose priority in dealing with these crimes is PR, hiding evidence from scrutiny and avoiding scandal, with zero consideration to the harm suffered by victims and our families, and almost zero concern for protecting additional children from harm. A very high level Vatican meeting on abuse in 2000 largely featured those with minimal or no expertise in this area, and which exposed a serious lack of appropriate responses to these crimes. Bishop Robinson’s evidence supports the position of SNAP in 2014 that questioned the suitability of declaring JPII a saint, when as pope he enjoyed more than a quarter of a century of absolute power and extreme wealth, yet lifted not a finger to prevent or assuage the suffering of millions of sexually violated children. Today’s evidence also informs the question of whether anything has actually changed under Pope Francis’ rule, and whether anything is likely to change in the near future. Unfortunately based on Bishop Robinson’s evidence the answer to both is no. Today’s evidence will hopefully raise serious questions about the need for more detailed investigation into these many crimes and their cover up than the Royal Commission can provide, and the need to reconsider the suitability of the Catholic Church and other abusive institutions to provide social services to vulnerable populations, or receive taxpayer funding.  
   
I could go on! 

So please Steven, if you really want to know how "good" this PR pope is- talk to us, or better still listen to us! 

PLEASE don’t be added to the list of people who are taken in by the marketing hype of the smily faced snake in the vatican! 

You are in a position to say so much to so many, I do not believe you would want to damage those  many people who have already been so badly damaged. 

You,  along with Chris Hitchens  admirably and forcibly won the debate when you opposed the motion “The catholic church is a force for good” 

You knew it was not then, and it IS not now, nothing has changed. This man is NOT what he seems - PLEASE make sure you get this one right. It matters so very much to so many of us.

I do not want to take you off my list of heros!

Same Shit Different day!

I never know wether to laugh or cry when I hear yet another ridiculous outpouring of utter crap from the catholic church.

I am sickened yet again by their  arrogance and inability to comprehend the damage that they have  actually caused to survivors of clergy abuse.

The Scottish church, and the McLellan enquiry once again, sidelining the issues and desperately trying to come out of the shit smelling of violets.

Here are their  “ recommendations”

2. The Scottish church had to make support for victims of abuse “an absolute priority”, including a full public apology. (WTF! WHY OH WHY DO THEY STILL THINK THAT THESE MEANINGLESS AND POINTLESS “APOLOGIES” ARE ANYTHING OTHER THAN OFFENSIVE????  WHY, OH WHY, DO SOME “VICTIMS”  EVEN STILL SETTLE FOR THIS PATRONISING DISMISSAL ? 
3. The church should set up a fund to pay for counselling for abuse victims. (WTFFFFFF!!!!! THE IDEA OF “COUNSELLING” BEING THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING  HAS REALLY GOT TO BE CHALLENGED! SURVIVORS OF ABUSE HAVE SUFFERED GRAVE AND PERMANENT DAMAGE, IN OUR BRAINS, IMMUNE SYSTEMS AND EVEN METABOLIC SYSTEMS.THAT DAMAGE CAN EVEN BE PASSED ON TIO THE NEXT GENERATION AND THE NEXT..... RESEARCH HAS SHOWN THAT WE HAVE A SHORTENED LIFE SPAN, AND ARE LIABLE TO COMMIT SUICIDE, WE HAVE MANY PHYSICAL PROBLEMS AS WELL AS THE UNDERSTATED MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL DIFFICULTIES, WE OFTEN HAVE DAMAGED RELATIONSHIPS, INABILITY TO DEAL WITH AUTHORITY, MISTRUST, PARANOIA FEAR , SHAME AND INAPPROPRIATE GUILT.WE HAVE OFTEN HAD OUR EDUCATION INTERRUPTED OR ABANDONED, WE MAY HAVE SKETCHY WORK HISTORIES, RARELY HAVE PENSIONS OR SAVINGS, AND STILL WE HAVE SURVIVED!!!!WE HAVE STRENGTH, YES WE HAVE “ HYPER-VIGILANCE”  BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD GOOD REASON , BUT WE ARE SURVIVORS! AND WE HAVE SKILLS THAT OTHERS CANNOT BEGIN TO IMAGINE! SO SET UP YOUR “FUND” BY ALL MEANS, BUT MAKE IT FOR THE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF POUNDS THAT YOU OWE TO EACH SURVIVOR TO MAKE AMENDS , NOT FOR A FEW QUID TO SALVE YOUR CONSCIENCE AND TO APPEAR COMPASSIONATE OR  FOR SOME CONDESCENDING DO GOODER TO BECOME A “LISTENING BUDDY” NOR FOR YET ANOTHER OF THESE WRETCHED  CHARITIES TO SKIM OFF SOME INCOME FOR THEMSELVES, BUT TO MAKE AMENDS FOR LIVES DESTROYED!!!!!  IT MAY WELL BE THAT SOME PEOPLE WANT, AND PERHAPS NEED THERAPY, BUT THAT SHOULD BE THEIR CHOICE! PERHAPS THEY WOULD PREFER TO SPEND THEIR TIME AND THE MONEY LYING ON A BEACH OR DRIVING A PORSCHE! IF I HAD BEEN GIVEN WHAT WAS REALLY DUE TO ME MANY YEARS AGO I WOULD HAVE DRUNK MYSELF TO DEATH BY NOW.BUT THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN  MY CHOICE, MY RIGHT TO GET IT WRONG AND MY RIGHT TO TELL THESE DUPLICITOUS NARCISSISTS TO SHUT THE F... UP!

2. The church had to stop pretending that different dioceses and religious orders were autonomous when it came to upholding its rules on abuse. (NO SHIT SHERLOCK! )
3. The duty of bishops in protecting and helping victims needed to be explicitly set out in the church’s guidelines on “awareness and safety”.(OH PLEASE! )
4. The church needed independent, external scrutiny of its safeguarding policies and their effectiveness to end the practice of the church policing itself. (AND THAT MUST BE SECULAR!)
5. The church had to be far more rigorous in making sure all its priests and staff had the correct training in preventing abuse and safeguarding.(BY WHOM? THEMSELVES? OR SOME TAME -IN THE PAY OF THE POPE -"VICTIM" GROUP?)
6. Bishops and priests had to stop appearing to blame victims for their abuse.(APPEARING? APPEARING? WTF ! THAT HAS BEEN THEIR FIRST AND CONSISTANT RESPONSE TO MOST SURVIVORS!---ALL OVER THE WORLD!)

The report stated: “Justice must be done, and justice must be seen to be done, for those who have been abused and for those against whom allegations of abuse are made.” (JUSTICE FOR THOSE WHO HAVE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST THEM? WTF!! THIS IS NOT A COLLABORATION!!! JUSTICE NEEDS TO BE DONE FOR THE VICTIMS OF THESE CRIMINALS! END OF!)

It added: “There are clearly parishes in which commitment to safeguarding is still resisted because of complacency and lack of interest.” (AND ARROGANCE AND NARCISSISM)

McLellan said three things had to happen. “First, and most important, a beginning will be made to heal the hurt and address the anger which survivors feel,” he said. (PATRONISING, CONDESCENDING CRAP! THESE CREEPS CANNOT BEGIN TO UNDERSTAND THE HURT OR THE ANGER! AND THE CHURCH CAN PLAY NO PART IN HEALING-THEY ARE THE PERPETRATORS!!)

“Second, the Catholic church in Scotland will confront a dark part of its past and find some healing for itself. Third, a significant step will be taken in restoring public credibility for the Catholic church. (THIS IS THE BIT TO LAUGH AT! IT HAS NO CREDIBILITY!! HEAL ISELF???? HEAL ITSELF?? BUT  OF COURSE, THAT IS WHAT IT’S ALL ABOUT! )

I have decided that crying is more appropriate!